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good afternoon everyone. i'm anderson cooper live in boston. bombing suspect dzhokhar tsarnaev is now in prison. i want to give you the latest information we have. the wounded 19-year-old was moved from a hospital here in boston overnight taken to federal medical center about 40 miles from here. the facility holds male inmates who need specialized or long-term medical care. meanwhile, the whereabouts of the suspect's parents is in question. their father was supposed to have been on his way here to the u.s. by now, at least that's what he had said he was going to do. he had agreed to cooperate in the investigation, but his wife tells cnn her husband is delaying his trip indefinitely allegedly for health reasons.
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she also says they've left their home in dagestan and gone to another part of russia. 34 of the more than 260 people wounded in last week east's ter attacks are still in the hospital. one remains in critical condition. at least 14 of the bombing victims have had to have amputations. a lot to tell you about in the hour ahead. he spent almost a week in the same hospital as some of the victims he's accused of wounding, but now dzhokhar tsarnaev is in that medical center. deborah feyerick is live outside the medical center in massachusetts and elizabeth cohen is with us from cnn headquarters in atlanta. debra, fill us in on the nuts and bolts of the transfer? >> we can tell you we got an e-mail about 6:00 -- just a few minutes after 6:00 this morning saying in fact the u.s. marshals had transported dzhokhar tsarnaev to the medical facility here which you see behind me. this is the devans federal medical center. there is a high security area plus we understand a team of doctors. this is done in close
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coordination with both the u.s. attorney's office, the fbi as well as the doctors that are attending to tsarnaev. they're trying to keep him obviously as stable as possible because he still has a way to go to heal from all his wounds. it was done we believe overnight. it was done at a time when the majority of cameras had pulled back from the medical center there in the heart of boston. and it was done in a way so that there would be minimum disruption certainly to the patient because, again, they've got to keep him as stable as they possibly can. they're still counting on a lot of information from him to be forthcoming, anderson. >> what do we know about the prison facility itself? >> what we can tell you and i know elizabeth will probably fill you in also as well, this is a place where inmates, prisoners go to receive sort of basic medical care as well as mental health care. they don't have an ability to do some of the extensive surgeries, but our understanding is that tsarnaev because of the special
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conditions will have a team of doctors that will minister him, that will monitor him and make sure that nothing goes wrong. they have to guarantee that he heals and he heals well so that they can continue the process and continue the investigation, anderson. >> okay, deb, thanks. i want to bring in our senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen. you've also done some checking, elizabeth, on this medical facility, this prison. what kind of capabilities do they have? and the fact he was able to be transferred, what does that suggest about his condition? >> right. the fact he was able to be transferred tells you he wasn't in the same kind of serious condition that he was in when he was first captured. as a matter of fact, he was upgraded to fair a few days before he was sent over to fort devens. it's a serious facility. it has about 1,000 patients in there right now, and they have a full medical staff, doctors, nurses, things like dialysis and
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x-raies. now, as deborah mentioned, i was told they can't do extensive invasive surgeries. so, again, that tells you something about his condition. if he needed surgery immediately, like a real surgery, they wouldn't be able to do it there. so they must feel comfortable that he wouldn't need a surgery like right away in a second. they also don't have an accredited intensive care unit. so it appears perhaps they don't have an intensive care unit at all. again, this tells us that his condition is much better than it was, you know, even just five or six days ago. >> all right. elizabeth, appreciate it. remember how the tsarnaev brothers' father was supposed to be heading into the states to cooperate with the investigation, at least that's what he had claimed, the family members had claimed. that's not going to happen as i mentioned for a while. both parents have relocated to another part in russia away from dagestan where they spoke with fbi officials and dagestan officials earlier in the week.
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nick paton walsh is in the tsarnaev hometown right now. you met and talked to both the mother and father this week, do we know where they went? >> we know they were pretty anxious to retain their privacy after what's obviously been a very difficult week, a lot of media here and on top of that the accusations against both of their sons and investigation by the fbi and russian security. we have though made our own journey to look into the past of this particular family. and being inside the town chechnya, the war-torn the heart of all the volatility of this region and being to the hometown of tsarnaev family there. heading into chechnya you feel the weight of two brutal wars. for an independence moscow would never allow. its ruins rebuilt over the only
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upside of the kremlin's heavy hand, the tsarnaev's family identity was forged here. we found their hometown and what's left of the family home. in its ruins lie the brutalized past the brothers must have grown up with. tamerlan fled this town when he was about 11 before the second war began. and this street was bombed. it's hard to be a chechen without a tie to your homeland, and these ruins bombed out in the first chechen war, what's left of the family home of the father to the alleged boston bombers. their great uncle remembers a devoutly religious tamerlan last year. >> translator: they were this big, but i didn't see them after that. and they weren't involved in that crazy stuff. >> reporter: i show him tamerlan's picture from online. >> that's tamerlan probably. he didn't live here so i can't say. >> reporter: americans say he's behind the boston bombings.
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>> translator: i saw them on tv. they said he was dead. i saw that. there he looks good, but i saw him on tv like this and that's it. >> reporter: since the war's intense repression inside chechnya has pushed violence across the region into dagestan. shootouts like this which killed a militant whose video tamerlan posted a link to a common place, police call them bandits using jihad as a cover for criminality. militants claim they wage against corrupt russian police. this video police say shows them cutting the throat of a policeman in his home. the west sometimes in their rhetorical sites as they train and recruit in the woods, chechnya's war began a cycle of violence that doesn't stop, just spreads. now, that village most likely pretty important to the tsarnaev family.
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and we understand from the aunt that they went back there from kyrgyzstan between the two chechen wars in the late 1990 ds, tried to make a life and then fled just before the second chechen war started. that village being heavily bombed, in fact most of that street having been destroyed. this must have been a pretty formative time for tamerlan much like he was 10 to 12, some time like that. he obviously then came back according to officials twice it seems in later stages of his youth, dagestan, talk to people here. investigators really trying to find out if he met any militants during that period of time, anderson. >> yeah. clearly still trying to figure out a lot of that six-month timeline he was there. nick paton walsh, appreciate it. you're looking at live pictures of a makeshift memorial for the victims of last week's bombings on boylston street here in boston. much more coverage from boston ahead. and also look at other stories making headlines including a vote in congress that could
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frustrated air travelers could get relief from congress in a vote taking place on capitol hill. the house is planning to vote on a bill to end air traffic controllers furloughs brought on by forced federal spending cuts. the furloughs went into effect last sunday. they've been blamed for more than 3,000 flight delays so far. this cartoon in the news to illustrate frustrations by a lot of folks. one guy in the tower trying to get planes to inch over and make room on a crowded tarmac. dana bash is live for us on capitol hill. what's the status of the vote, dana? >> well, it looks like it's heading towards passage. it's not completely done yet, anderson, but over 360 votes and counting. which means that it looks like it's going to get what's effectively a supermajority needed to do this in such warp speed. it really is warp speed. and it is certainly not without controversy. of course you talk to members of congress on both sides of the aisle this is something that is rare here, it is bipartisan. and they say they understand the
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problem that this does to the economy and so forth. but you also talk to democrats, many democrats who i talked to this morning walking around the hallways here and they many of them are furious and very frustrated that congress is able to carve out relief for air travelers and not some of the other people in this country with these forced spending cuts. in fact that was given a voice with one of the top democrats this morning. listen to what he said. >> we ought not to be mitigating the sequester's effect on just one segment when children, the sick, our military and many other groups who will be impacted by this irresponsible policy are left unhelped. instead of dressing this serious wound with a small band-aid, let's get to work on a real solution. >> and, anderson, i was talking to congressman tim walls of minnesota this morning who said
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how am i going to go home and tell my constituents that it's easier for me to fly and others to fly, but i still can't get the relief to the mayo clinic for cancer research. you're hearing a lot of that and also frustration among house democrats with their fellow democrats in the senate and at the white house for allowing this to happen not negotiating better, frankly, with republicans to at least use the desire to alleviate the pain that the faa to get other help for those who democrats feel need it most like for example head start and other recipients. if this does pass, this is going to eventually head to the president's desk. >> as we said just passed. do we know how soon this means air traffic controllers get back on the job, those who have been furloughed, things get back to normal? >> that is all going to depend on the transportation secretary because what this legislation does is gives the transportation secretary the flexibility he did
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not have and know the forced cuts these agencies to move around money and make sure that air traffic controllers and others who deal with safety at the faa deal with making sure that everything is running on time, he has the ability to send that money over there. so it doesn't directly earmark the money for air traffic controllers and so forth, but it gives them the flexibility. he talked to some republicans and they argue this is exactly what they wanted to do across the board with the nearly $100 billion in spending cuts. in fact, listen to what one republican argued this morning, anderson. >> we're taking this step because of the gross mismanagement of this important function for the safety of all americans who fly and on behalf of the commerce that depends on a reliable air system. we are taking this action to end the administration's political gains that threaten our passengers rights and their
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safety. >> so you do hear republicans saying this is all about the admistration playing politics, that they somehow found a way to make the pain more visible by making the cuts even starker and deeper with air travel because those are the things we see. we see lines and people who are traveling a lot of them including members of congress by the way feel that pain. the administration and the faa in particular argues that's just not the case, that they were simply following the letter of the law with the forced spending cuts. i should tell you it is kind of ironic after these members are voting, what are they going to do? they're going to all go get on planes. so they definitely do feel this pain more than many other pieces of the pie of these forced spending cuts. >> dana, appreciate it. secretary of state john kerry is back in the united states now a stronger backing for his belief that syrian forces used chemical weapons against the rebels. kerry's been saying for several days that he believes syria has
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used chemical weapons at least twice. today he's in a closed door session with all house members on syria as well as north korea. earlier this week in brussels he told nato members to make plans in case reports were confirmed that syria had in fact used the chemical weapon. some remarkable news from bangladesh where a building collapse has killed more than 300 people. rescuers have found at least 50 more people alive in the rubble amazingly. that's in addition to 70 who were pulled out earlier many in critical condition. it is just a horrific sight there. it's going to take hours to dig out those huddled in what used to be the third floor of a garment factory. hundreds more could still be buried. protesters demanding safer working conditions in bangladesh. they want the factory owners arrested. you see the demonstrations there. still ahead, the boston man who says he was carjacked by the tsarnaev brothers speaks out. we'll have the dramatic details of his 90-minute ordeal of the time he thought he could be
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welcome back to our continuing coverage. you're looking at live pictures there the area around boylston street where a makeshift memorial has sprouted up. people throughout the day just stopping to pay their respects. 90 minutes of sheer terror, that's what a boston man says he went through after being carjacked by the bombing suspects tamerlan and dzhokhar tsarnaev. the 26-year-old chinese entrepreneur only identified by his american nickname danny details his terrifying experience exclusively to the "boston globe." he describes one critical moment he says "they stopped in watertown center so dzhokhar could withdraw money from the bank of america atm using danny's card. danny shivering claiming to be cold asked for his jacket guarded by just one brother he wondered if it was his chance, but he saw around him only locked store fronts. a police car drove by, lights off. he endures a seemingly endless drive through boston.
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>> drove around 90 minutes constantly threatening him. he's thinking how do i stay alive. at one point he gets a text message from his roommate in chinese, where are you, how come you haven't come home and tamerlan takes a chinese to english app, there's another text then a call, they don't answer. there's silence in danny's car. they call again. tamerlan says you answer, if you say a word in chinese, because he knows he's speaking in chinese, he might rat them out, i'll kill you and don't be stupid. so danny says talking to him in mandarin in english i'm sick, i'm with a friend, i'm sorry, i've got to go. he's just trying to think when can i get out, when is my moment? lucky for danny the car was running low on gas. they had to stop at a gas station. double stroke of luck wouldn't take the card, younger brother has to go in to pay for cash. that leaves danny with tamerlan. he's been with tamerlan all day,
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killed an m.i.t. officer five hours earlier, puts the gun in the driver side pocket of danny's suv and both hands fiddling with the gps and he realizes if i'm going to get out, now is the chance. i've got to unbuckle the seat belt and open the door and go in one swift motion. >> and that's exactly what he says he did. he ran to a nearby gas station where a 9-1-1 call was made. his iphone and car satellite system would eventually help police find the stolen car in watertown. that's when that shootout ensued. now, the fund raising for victims of the boston bombings has been remarkable. $26 million raised so far, but efforts to raise money for victims of the texas plant explosions have fallen behind by comparison only $1 million. 14 people died in the west, texas blast that left an entire town reeling of multiblock area around the blast just devastated. some 200 people injured, more than 100 homes destroyed. if you want to donate to the victims of either the west, texas disaster or the boston
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welcome back to a special edition of "cnn newsroom." the latest, bombing suspect dzhokhar tsarnaev has been moved from the hospital here to a federal medical center devens. the suspect's parpts have also moved. the mother telling cnn she and her husband have left their home in dagestan and gone to another part of russia. they didn't say where. her husband is delaying his trip to the u.s. indefinitely she says because of medical reasons. also, a mosque in cambridge is going to hold an interfaith solidarity service today. it's the same mosque where the older bombing suspect tamerlan
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tsarnaev is known to have worshipped on a number of occasions. and the younger suspect, dzhokhar. the islamic society of boston has denounced the terror attacks and says many of the members were at the marathon finish line when the bombs went off. questions are mounting over apparent intelligence gaps in tracking when the boston bombing suspects, republican lawmaker calls the case a system failure. here's what senator lindsey graham told me about his concerns. >> the fbi and cia are very brave people, great organizations. but how can you say given the facts 11 years after 9/11 the system is working the way it should and at the end of the day the administration in charge deserves the credit when it works and the blame when it fails and the goal is not to blame them exclusively, but to fix it. and i hope we will. this will be a wakeup call and we fix it. >> tom fuentes is a former fbi director and cnn analyst. thanks for joining us.
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this report saying the fbi did not alert antiterrorism officials in massachusetts that they had investigated the suspect tamerlan tsarnaev. what do you make of that? how significant is that? is that a failure? >> anderson, i'm not sure of the accuracy of that particular report. the joint terrorism task force in boston has more than 20 agencies, federal, state and local, and representatives from the state police from boston police and many surrounding towns as well as the other federal agencies from dhs including state department would all be on that jttf, would all have access, they would all discuss who's being investigated, they would all be able to go into all of the databases that each agency might use for its own purposes into master databases. i don't know how they would miss it because they have officers -- i would like to know the specific agency and whether or not they had an officer on the jttf and if not, why not?
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that would be my question because the fbi certainly i've run two jttfs myself personally, i know how that works. you invite all the agencies in the territory to come participate at every level even including the coast guard to come on and have a member assigned in the jttf full-time where they'll be able to hear and see everything that goes on, know everybody that's come under investigation, know what the results were and then decide according to their specific rules what to do with the eventual results of the investigation. so i don't know the validity. >> how does that actually work, tom? how does that actually work? does the city representative on the jttf, would they be alerted that one arm of the jttf or the fbi met with tamerlan tsarnaev in this case? or would it just be available on a database if they were to look for it? >> no. >> somebody walk down the hall and knock on the door and say
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here's a heads up, we've interviewed a guy in your city. >> normally they're sitting side by side and discuss it and then they have meetings normally morning and afternoon meetings to discuss here's who we've looked at today, here's what we've got, here's the results of that. and everybody that's a participant in the jttf would be privy to the actual information about the investigation at the time of it. every member of the jttf goes through a clearance process by the fbi so they're cleared top secret so they can actually see the internal communications of the fbi and the other agencies. there's no restriction on them because they're cleared top secret or above. so they see everything. they discuss everything. it's all right there. so to me i don't know how they would miss it including passport control people and state department people as far as the visa process or no-fly list or other things. representatives of each of those components of the government are sitting side by side. i don't know how much closer you can get than that.
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>> all right. clearly more information needed on this. tom fuentes, appreciate your perspective and clearance. thank you. >> you're welcome. some tweets dzhokhar tsarnaev said last year, one thing i will die young. we'll examine other comments on twitter coming up. greed to give. that's today? [ male announcer ] we'll be with him all day as he goes back to taking tylenol. i was okay, but after lunch my knee started to hurt again. and now i've got to take more pills. ♪ yup. another pill stop. can i get my aleve back yet? ♪ for my pain, i want my aleve. ♪ [ male announcer ] look for the easy-open red arthritis cap.
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welcome back. you're looking at live pictures on boylston street. investigators are analyzing two and a half years of tweets sent from dzhokhar tsarnaev's twitter account. messages are being looked at for what they say what they might suggest. deborah feyerick has our look. >> the picture that emerges is of a young man proud of his chechen roots eager to visit
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what he calls his homeland, a country he'd left as a child. "a decade in america already i want out" he tweets in march 2012. the 19-year-old college student was planning to return to dagestan last summer arriving just as older brother tamerlan was returning from a six-month stay there. but his plans fell through. "my passports not going to come in time" he writes. he complains that his mother is trying to arrange a marriage for him "she needs to chill out. i'll find my own honey" he tweets. his trip canceled, tsarnaev instead takes a train to washington, d.c. via new york complaining about a noisy child and noting "new york looks ill from afar, but zoom in and it gets real dirty." messages and a photo from the time shows tsarnaev visited new york again with friends around thanksgiving. "new york is so ratchet on black friday it's ridiculous, i'm to
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bed soon." religion seems to have been of growing importance over the last year. people mistakenly think he's converted. "brothers at the mosque either think i'm a convert or that i'm from algeria or syria." on another occasion he shares "spent the day with this jamaican muslim convert, my religion is truth." other tweets are of special interest, a full year before the bombing he writes native russian "i will die young." several months later in august he writes "boston marathon isn't good place to smoke." and in january of this year "i got those brothers that i'd take a bullet for, in the leg or the shoulder or something, nothing fatal though." finally, a week before the attack "if you have the knowledge and the inspiration all that's left is to take action." deborah feyerick, cnn, new york.
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>> well, boston cab driver jim dug enencountered the brothers the day before. jake tapper reports. >> i was here at the train station. it was a sunday. and it was kind of a slow day. >> two sundays ago? >> the sunday before the marathon. it was probably between 10:00 and 11:30. i was the only cab here. in fact, i was going to pull away and get a cup of coffee when i saw two guys in my mirror. and i got out and they said can you take us to cambridge. i said no problem, i opened the trunk, they had two backpacks, i reached out to help them and they wanted to put it in themselves. >> did they seem heavy? >> i didn't touch them at that point. >> the way they were carrying them though? >> not really sure, but they put it in the trunk themselves. they were adamant about me not picking them up. one of the first questions i asked him honestly is if they
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were from saudi arabia. they said, no, we're from chechnya. >> who other memories are coming back? >> we talked about a lot of different things. when we get to close to where i was going to drop them off, i said, hey, guys, i don't know if you ever heard of the boston marathon because it's tomorrow like right over the bridge. if you've never seen it, might be a good experience, something for you to see. and the little brother said, oh, boston marathon. and the older brother got real aggressive. little brother said to me at the time nothing to worry about, it's between me and my brother. just pull over here and let us out. they get out, they paid me. and honestly i put the car in drive and went to drive away and i hear them screaming and they bang on the trunk and i'm like, oh, i forgot. >> stuff in the trunk. >> so i get out and they were angry. and i was like, man, you know what, i'm sorry. i forgot. innocent mistake. people make mistakes. so i popped the trunk, the little brother grabs his bag.
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and then i remember reaching in and grabbing another bag. >> was it heavy? >> oh, it was heavy. you would assume like a purse or something, right? you assume what something should weigh. >> it was heavier than you thought? >> it was heavier than it should have been. >> fbi released photographs of the suspects a week ago at about 5:15 p.m. when did you realize, oh, my god, i think he was in my cab? >> the news first come out and they had the picture of the kid with the white hat. i remember distinctly that kid with the white cap and curly hair coming out. >> was he wearing it backwards? >> no, forwards just like mine. >> the other wearing the black cap? >> he was wearing that cap too. i told my mother, those kids were in my cab. >> when did you call homeland security? >> i called the fbi either friday or saturday night, i think. at that time i told them, you
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know what, my memory isn't super clear, but this is what i remember. and they told me that over time certain triggers may come to you and you'll remember more. and i did. >> you were face-to-face with evil. >> the thought that i had that kind of evil in my car, i don't know, 28, 30 hours, the thought that i actually picked up what could have been that bag is terrifying. >> well, coming up tonight on cnn we're going to follow the trail of terror from the boston suburbs to the war-torn caucasus, what may have influenced these two suspected bombers? we're going to try to piece together all the information that we know in one report, a special report, boston terror behind the bombings, it's tonight at 10:00 eastern. and i'll be here on 360 at 8:00 p.m. eastern. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] what are happy kids made of?
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if you recall the economy just stalled in the fourth quarter last year growing an anem anemic .04%. that's the gdp or gross domestic product reading the values of the goods and services that the country produces. some boston businesses could lose out on insurance payments if the bombings are officially declared an act of terror. since the 9/11 attacks businesses have typically had to pay extra to cover terrorism. and if they don't have the extra coverage, all of their losses might not be reimbursed. christine romans explains that. >> week two of the boston marathon bombing story brings an insurance headache. what will this mean for small businesses who are just now reopening and their lost business? the physical damage because of the boston marathon bombings expected to be in the low millions of dollars, but it is the business interruption, the lost business of a week of revenue for some businesses especially small businesses in copley square that will be critical. now, if the treasury department designates this as a terrorist
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act, that means terrorism insurance kicks in. it's unclear how many of these businesses carry terrorism policies. if it is officially deemed a terrorist attack, then your regular insurance policies are null and void and it's terrorism insurance that takes over. now, for individuals, people who with a car, a boat, personal property that may have been damaged or hurt in the siege on boston, your regular comprehensive auto insurance policy will likely hold. your regular homeowners policy or renters policy, there's no exemption for terrorism in those. but it is the small businesses around copley square and on boylston street who are going to try to figure out with attorneys quite frankly and with state and insurance officials what happens next with them. will they be able to get some sort of recompense for the last week? christine romans, cnn, new york. >> coming up you're going to
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meet a firefighter who saved the life of 7-year-old jane richard, the sister of the 8-year-old boy martin richard who was killed in the marathon bombings. stay with us for that. ♪ ♪ [ female announcer ] nothing gets you going quite like the power of quaker oats. today is going to be epic. quaker up.
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since boylston street reopened, that's the memorial that has sprouted up. so many people leaving flowers, momentos, signs and cards just
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remembering, pausing to remember those who lost their lives and those whose lives have been forever changed. the boston bombings took a heavy toll on one family. 8-year-old martin richard was killed in the blast. his mother and sister badly wounded. the richards might have lost their little girl jane if it hadn't been for a firefighter paramedic from the lynn fire department off duty having a drink with his girlfriend when the bomb blast went off. he rushed in, he saw the little girl and he saved her life right after the second blast. i asked him about those moments. it was really the second blast when you realized. >> second blast, yeah, that took all doubts out of my mind. i immediately started running towards the front yelling for people to get back, get to the kitchen, get away from the windows. not pushing people back, but you know at the same time making it known i was going forward and they were going the other way. i get out to the patio and i don't know if it was just tunnel vision or fate or whatever it was, but i just looked and
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focused and i just saw this one child in the middle of the street just sitting there with this dazed shocked look. even from where i was i could tell this child was hurt. >> you could see her face. >> yeah, i could just tell. like i said that's why i don't know if it was tunnel vision or what i zoomed in. try and call it training or intuition or whatever, something was horribly wrong. >> because it's pandemonium. >> it is. it's hard to explain, but it is pandemonium. once you get something in your mind and once you focus on it like that's the task at hand. i don't know if it's training or if it's just the fact i was distracted by just this one child, but it had my full attention. >> so you ran over to this little girl. >> i ran over to this little girl initially i thought was a little boy. i knelt down and expressed hi, i'm matt, here to help you. i'm a paramedic. we're going to be all right. we're going to be okay. >> so she was with her father? >> she was with her father and older brother. neither one of them looked injured. i asked her her name. the reply i thought i got back
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was shane. turns out it was jane. like i said, the answer was irrelevant. the fact that she could speak told me that she had an airway, and she was conscious and alert to what was going on. she just looked in a state of shock. she just had this emotionless look and just, you know, i only remember her saying once or twice that her leg hurt. >> was she crying? >> no. no crying. she looked me straight in the face and answered the question. what's your name? and turned out to be jane, but shane. and you can imagine with the chaos and noise, shane, jane, it was -- >> so what did you do first? >> well, so once she spoke i realized good i looked down and realized she had a full left leg amputation. so i get up, i run back to the sidewalk, there happens to be a gentleman standing there. i need your belt, i need your belt. no hesitation the man ripped off his belt. gave it to me, ripped off the belt, applied tourniquet. started looking left, started
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looking right, we needed to get this child moving, she was in bad condition. >> it was critical to get the tourniquet onto stop the bleeding. >> yes, the tourniquet was crucial. without the tourniquet she would have bled out. >> how quickly can someone bleed out? >> a child that size it varies on the injuries and if the wound but 30 seconds to a minute. >> she got the belt, you ran back. >> another gentleman who had found out michael chase great guy ran up to me and asked what he could do. i said we have to move this kid. this child needs transportation and medical help, like real medical help, like a doctor. very sound of sirens, looked up and down boylston street and i saw two fire engines and a med truck coming towards us. immediately scooped up the child, told michael no matter what don't let go of the tourniquet and we ran down the street with the son and father
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following. michael stayed with them afterwards to calm them down. >> so you're running holding jane and michael is -- >> running with me holding the tourniquet on just to keep it cinched down. it's a belt. it's not designed for that kind of pressure and that kind of tension. he had to run with me. his job was to hold the tourniquet and i was just supporting her weight while he held that on. it was crucial. like without him or i, it wouldn't have worked. it couldn't have been done with one person. you needed both of us had to be there at that time and able to do what we did. i ran back to the scene. i get upon another child who i noticed cpr's in progress. i don't know who was doing it, but i did notice cpr was being done. i get up to the child and notice it's a boy. couldn't have been anymore than 8 or 10 years old. small child. severe injuries as well, lower extremities and abdominal. so i move my way to the head. at this time there's some medical presence on the scene.
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there's a bag and administered two breaths to the child, let the cpr go, two more breaths, check for pulse, there's no pulse. i knew at that point that, you know, it's never a lost cause with a child or anything like that, but the situation depending and especially that situation with the amount of injured we have and the civilian injuries that there was nothing more that we could do for this boy. >> that was martin richard. >> that's the boy that we tried to save and ended up happen to just, you know, triage and move onto someone else that could be saved. >> that was jane's brother. >> that was jane's brother. >> what's that like to, i mean, you're with these people in the most horrible moment in this intimate moment and to not even know who they are and to see on television the picture of this little boy when he was alive. >> during the event and the tragedy, you know, you don't really have a connection. and it's not personal. i don't make to sound like we
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don't care because we do, it's a very -- >> you've got to be focused. >> it's a very methodical, this is what needs to be done, this is who can be saved. you have to assess each injury and each victim separately and without bias. it's purely based on what can i do to save this person's life or help and can it be saved? >> have you been able to talk to the richard family? >> no. >> is that something ultimately you would like to do? >> ultimately, i would -- it's up to the family. that family has suffered more in a day than anybody should in a lifetime. but i'd like an update. i'd like to know that we did make a difference. it's one less person that they didn't get, one less life that wasn't robbed. >> you saved a life. >> and that's ultimately what it's about. you just happen to be in a really bad situation, but you were there, you were put there for a reason and you had the knowledge and, you know, the guts or whatever you want to call it to run in there and make
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a difference. >> you just became a medic. >> i did. >> i'm very glad you became a medic. >> me too. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. appreciate it. >> just completed his certification to become a medic. an amazing guy, matt patterson. take a look at the cover of "boston" magazine. a heart made of running shoes and every one of those shoes was worn by someone who ran in the boston marathon the day of the attack. coming up the editor joins me to explain how they did it. thank you orville and wilbur... ...amelia... neil and buzz:
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hi everyone. i'm anderson cooper in boston for our special coverage of the boston bombings investigation. there's a lot to tell you about in the hour ahead. terror suspect dzhokhar tsarnaev is no longer in this city. here's the latest, the wounded 19-year-old was moved from a hospital here in boston to a prison hospital 40 miles away. he's now at federal medical center devens that holds male inmates that need specialized or long-term medical care. the whereabouts of the suspect's parents are now in question. their father was supposed to have been here either today or tomorrow that according to the family. he'd agree to cooperate with the investigation as well, but his wife now tells cnn her husband is delaying his trip indefinitely she says for health reasons. she also says they've left their home in dagestan and gone to another part in russia, exactly where we don't know. 34 of the more than 250 people wounded in last week east's ter attacks ar

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